Daniel Gascon:

Without considering himself a professional Aragonese, Daniel Gascón (Zaragoza, 1981) boasts a “cojonero” character typical of countrymen like Miguel Servet. Being a philologist, he must have been the north wind that has led him to Madrid and his courtly troubles. A collaborator in the capital’s press and responsible for the Spanish edition of Letras Libres, Gascón has published Fake news. How to end Spanish politics (Debate), a volume that compiles his most recent published articles and debuts as a cartoonist. As a revealer of the absurdity of public affairs, the author enunciates Gascón’s law: all satire is a prophecy and all parody is a euphemism.

–Goya, Buñuel, Sender… Being born in Aragon must imprint character.

–There is a somewhat brutal sense of humor but deep down tender… And there is the stubbornness, with which I recognize myself… or Servetus, people with a spirit of cojonera fly, so to speak. They are things that in the end are part of one. Then we all make a poetic, most of it invented, but the important thing is not to take it seriously, which is what happens to nationalism.

–Borges said of Lorca that he was a professional Andalusian. Isn’t there already a lot of identity professionals?

-I think so. We have become actors ourselves. What amuses me is that all identities are very composite. Andalusians are very different from each other. One is from Malaga but he has a German girlfriend and it’s something else now. In the end, I am left with the fact that all identities are mixed and that one should not take oneself so seriously.

–Isn’t it increasingly difficult in Spain to get along with your neighbours?

-It seems so, but sometimes I think that the confrontation is more in politics and in the media than in the street, fortunately. In the street there is talk of many things that are not politics. Unlike in other countries, it seems that polarization has not affected people. That’s lucky.

–Is satire more effective for political criticism than essays?

Sometimes it’s more immediate. The bullet is an image and a phrase in which you can condense an idea quickly. I also think the test is necessary. One thing helps the other. But this time it seemed to me that there were some elements of politics and its basins, so to speak, that could be better understood with satire.

–Is it more to laugh or smile?

–Surely I’m more of a smile, but I love the impromptu bombardment of jokes from a meeting of friends. That is for me the idea of ​​happiness.

– What doesn’t make you happy?

–There are things that always piss you off at first. I think that making someone suffer is something that is never funny but, with the passage of time, other things that make you angry you can look at with humor. Woody Allen used to say that comedy equals tragedy plus time.

–Would you go to a deserted island with Allen, Groucho Marx, Buster Keaton or Jardiel Poncela?

It depends on what for…

–… For a little while.

–With Groucho we would have a great time and with Keaton, due to his acrobatic skills, we would surely survive longer on the island.

– Starting from Gascón’s law, make a prophecy of the rule of law of the puncture in the media.

–Well, what has happened to all of us when we click on a news item to understand the ten best ways to have sex in the shower and we leave without finding out.

– What would be, within that Gascón law, the parody of television tertualism?

–Any tertullian would be a parody of ourselves.

– Is an opinion maker born or made?

I think a little is done. It is true that there are always people who have more passion for saying what they think and then, many times, end up becoming a professional. With social networks it is also easier for the opinion of others to be known, something that also has its positive things, but I think that sometimes the omnipresence of social gatherings has to do with precariousness, that opinion is cheaper than sending someone to cover a news in the place that happens.

– Is the corruption in the European Parliament for the World Cup in Qatar more of a farce or a tragedy?

It is both things at the same time. Apart from weakening the idea of ​​Europe as a champion of ethical values, it is good that it is being investigated, that there is accountability. The disturbing part is to think that if this happens with Qatar, it makes us think that it has happened with other countries and in other situations. It is bad news but it can help us look at things more.

–Are those who use humor for criticism branded as cynical?

–And another thing they tell us is that we always make jokes about them. You have to start with yourself and with those who are supposedly at your side, because sometimes you can become an accommodating being. Humor is a defense and you have to try so that it is not a position that you adopt because it makes you feel bad but in the end it hurts you more. For me, that is the limit of humor and not knowing what you can make a joke of and not.

– What is the most embarrassing term created by politics recently?

–Resilience has already been discussed a lot… Many words have been emptied of content or mean the opposite depending on who says it. The clearest example is when the postmodern coup in Catalonia, which called for a democracy that is very difficult to understand. Or a few days ago in Congress, where the two groups have accused each other of a coup, each one understanding different things by coup.

–And any economic finds?

–One of my favorites was that “accelerated deceleration” of Zapatero during the previous crisis. That’s hard to beat.

Daniel Gascon: